Curse

Feminist Terrorist · Nov 20, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

Yeah, that area is hard, but I pushed through, despite high death penalty, and copious amounts of cussing on my part. I was running my MM build, and had Master of Whispers set up as an SS. Forget what other heros I had though.

I feel for the OP though. Some places are just really tough to get through if you don't have the right group for it. Hang in there Rahja, you'll get it eventually.

arcady · Nov 20, 2006, 10:06 AM // 10:06

Koss at only level 13?

Is anyone else under max level? I haven't made it to this point in the game so I can't comment on much else, but I noticed that even Consulate Docks was exceedingly different with the first, not-nightfall native character I took through it - who had under-leveled heroes. It was notably easier the second time around when my lowest leveled hero for that native to Nightfall character was at 17.

If your near the endgame and you've got a level 13 hero, it makes me wonder what else is either under-leveled or under-equipped.

Sekkira · Nov 20, 2006, 10:09 AM // 10:09

One thing that always gets me. Why do people set up Tahlkora as a healer? You have Dunkoro there, Tahlkora was set up as a protection initially, so keep her that way.

People thinking bringing Heal Other will solve their problems when massive damage is being thrown around make me lol.

Stixxx · Nov 20, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Rahja if you're in Domain of Secrets..(cause that's the way you go to get farther) you shouldn't have to fight them guys. TAKE OF THE DAMN QUEST YOU HAVE. That will solve your problems. Just do the primary.

I think that would solve my problem as well. its kinda a habit to pick up all quests i see and then go in, trying to do as much as possible...
Anywhoooo Nightfallen Jahai, here i come again!

kazjun · Nov 20, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28

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Originally Posted by arcady

Koss at only level 13?

Is anyone else under max level? I haven't made it to this point in the game so I can't comment on much else, but I noticed that even Consulate Docks was exceedingly different with the first, not-nightfall native character I took through it - who had under-leveled heroes. It was notably easier the second time around when my lowest leveled hero for that native to Nightfall character was at 17.

If your near the endgame and you've got a level 13 hero, it makes me wonder what else is either under-leveled or under-equipped.

Didn't notice that. Yeah, if you're roaming the realm of torment with lvl 13 heroes then sure you are going to get pawned. They got low hp, paper for armour, and their skills do jack, damage or healing. I suggest you go level them at the consulate docks. Doesn't take long, and they get maxed armour and hp buffed to like 600, so it doesn't matter what level they are. Its easy to clear the whole place (getting you masters if you haven't got it already). Better than getting owned by random mobs. Two arms of insanity shouldn't even be worthy of notice, unless you're like lvl10 wearing starter armour.

Nickhimself · Nov 20, 2006, 10:32 AM // 10:32

Umm...at one point of the game, don't you get Koss back @ level 15? I swear...

Lord Sojar · Nov 20, 2006, 10:32 AM // 10:32

The heroes I am using right now all are lvl20, with green items as equiptment and major/superior vigor runes and minor/major increase attribute runes as well as a few attunement/vitae runes here and there.

Oh, and as an update, the AI isnt helping..... FIX IT ANET! FIX IT! stop being lazy and fix the god forsaken AI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/endrant

NOTE: I will be posting radar images of the MESSED UP ai.

Nickhimself · Nov 20, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Don't post radar images. Post the builds being used by your heroes / yourself. That would help much more.

Ninna · Nov 20, 2006, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

take all quests off, do them later.

For now just get by the place. Aggro one group at a time, it's not hard.

Great advice for traveling Torment

- just take the Primary quest

Lord Sojar · Nov 20, 2006, 10:45 AM // 10:45

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Originally Posted by Nickhimself

Don't post radar images. Post the builds being used by your heroes / yourself. That would help much more.

oh no, seperate issue. I will somehow manage to get through this once I get some sleep.

Blaze Emup · Nov 20, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09

I had this same issue. As soon as you talk to Kormir just run to the right out of their way. They take the same path down to the rez shrine each time so just avoid them. If you avoid them they just stand there like idiots waiting for you at the shrine.

Sorry. I had said talk to Dunkoro originally but it was Kormir.

FalconDance · Nov 20, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

It may seem very, very silly, but Shields Up works wonders against barrage rangers...........

Esprit · Nov 20, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17

I only recall one area that sounded that tough, when you first get into the Realm of Torment area, Kormir tells you to go to a place, when you step outside there are lots of Level 28 mobs... is that the place? Because I ran around the mobs, avoiding aggro. If not, I did not find the rest of the missions terribly mob heavy.

Lord Sojar · Nov 20, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Like I said, I had some Master lvl quest on that was spawning a BILLION of these mobs. That might have explained it.

On another note though. Why the hell did ANET make these quests impossible? They are literally impossible. Monsters with 30+ pts in water magic hitting u with deepfreeze for 250 dmg each. Dervish lvl28s hitting you for 370+ dmg with chilling victory. These quests with 7-10 lvl28s per group are INSANE. I don't understand how these are even possible.... Maybe we could arrange an elite party of well thought out character builds to conquer them... @_@

African War Lord · Nov 20, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50

yea that master quest has resulted in the death of many including me. If that's the area your in, you don't have to fight everything.

Abandon the master quest, or just run past them like I did. Then you can fight some stuff along the way but it's best to try to run past everything you can. I was fighting some mobs then noticed we somehow aggro'd another mob. I swear if your fighting a group, soon the whole screen is after you. (That may be a bug? alot of things have ran after me when there not even close to my aggro bubble.) So I decided to make a run for it. That worked for me but I'm a dervish, a highly survivable character, not sure how far your necro would make it.

If your still stuck message me ingame African War God I'll help ya through it.

LumpOfCole · Nov 20, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

QZ is murder on my Spirit Spammer

VitisVinifera · Nov 21, 2006, 10:32 AM // 10:32

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Originally Posted by Stixxx

I think that would solve my problem as well. its kinda a habit to pick up all quests i see and then go in, trying to do as much as possible...
Anywhoooo Nightfallen Jahai, here i come again!

Yeah this was getting me as well, so I abandoned that quest, and you can actually run some of the main quests in nightfallen areas.

Tonight i actually did this quest though. Nasty mobs come from left and right, so I ran ahead before they converged, then I cleared out the area a bit, then started pulling those mobs (even though they are all clustered together, you can pull them out easily in groups of 3 or so). A few more left/right mob groups come, and I just let them all converge before seperating them out. Was fairly easy actually.

Skuld · Nov 21, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

[skill]Energizing Wind[/skill] and Lightbringer Signet?

Smokindan · Nov 21, 2006, 10:42 AM // 10:42

EDIT: Never mind. I only thought there was one page and I was responding to the info on that.

jackie · Nov 21, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

It's not the quests that are difficult to some players, it's the observing of skill list and adapting team build to counter threats in PvE.

Be it a quest where you see 30 Rain of Terrors coming down the hill towards your party of eight adventurers, protecting some old trees from corruption or what not, solution is always found from correct team setup.